The Real Estate Path to Early Retirement - Episode 19

Kendra Barnes did all the right things, getting the degrees and landing that good government job. However, she knew there was more to life. After attending a party and playing the game CashFlow the world of real estate became a reality for her. Learn how she was able to retire in her 30s through real estate and how she is helping others do the same. Check out Acres: Inspiring Stories of 25 Real Estate Investors Who Are Normalizing Black Wealth One Acre at a Time and join her Facebook group for real estate investing resources and to engage with people making big moves in real estate investing.

About Our Guest:
Kendra Barnes is a full-time Real Estate Investor, founder of The Key Resource and author of Acres. Her real estate investments afforded her the ability to retire from the 9-5 life at the age of 32. She created The Key Resource to inspire, empower and educate people about the power of home ownership and Real Estate investment.

Her key message to anyone looking to buy a home or a rental property is: “You don’t have to hit the lottery or be left an inheritance to buy property. You can start with what you have right now. You are worthy of wealth.”

Kendra was born in Virginia, raised in Texas and went to undergrad at North Carolina A&T State University. She received her Masters in Agricultural Economics from Purdue University.

In her spare time she loves thrift shopping, baking gluten-free goodies and spending time with her husband and daughter.

---

Support the show

Please join me here, and follow me on social media, Instagram, and Facebook.

Need help getting started on your path to financial freedom? Start Here

Join the Financially Intentional Community

Oh and please subscribe and leave a review on whatever app you're using to stream this podcast.

Get my book Smart Money

Subscribe & Review

Love this episode? Please subscribe and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform. 

TRANSCRIPT:

[00:00:00] Naseema: What's up? What's up? My financially intentional people? I'm super used to have Kendra Barnes join us. My old school homie join us because I think she's a phenomenal resource. is, in fact, she is the key resource and I want her to share her journey of how she was able to retire early. 32 years old through real estate.

But how that happened, how she, how she learned about real estate, how she started investing, and how she is helping us invest. And also, she is a published author of the Beautiful, beautiful Table book. Acres. So I just want you to bring us along your journey because I think it's phenomenal and I am so honored to be able to witness it from the early stages.

So, hey, Kendra. Hey.

[00:00:54] Kendra: Yeah, thanks for having me. I know we met like so long ago in my journey as the key resource, right? So it's been beautiful to watch your journey. You're inspiring so many people too. So thank you. Yes.

[00:01:07] Naseema: So let's talk about how you got introduced into real estate. Like what sparked your interest?

[00:01:13] Kendra: Girl was so random. So I did like the traditional thing. I went to undergrad, I went to grad school, got a government job, got married, bought a house. And for me I was like checking all those boxes of stuff you're supposed to do. Real estate investing was not even on my radar. And it wasn't because I didn't think I could do it.

Like I wasn't like, oh, I can't be an investor. I just never thought about it. It's like, I don't know. You didn't really see back then, we're talking like early 2000 tens, like young black people investing in real estate. It seemed like something that older white people do or people who were already wealthy.

Like regardless of whatever background you come from. And so I was working government job. I hated my job. This is not nine to five bashing. I just didn't like it. It wasn't for me. Fun fact. I actually tried to drop outta grad school . Cause I already knew. I was like, this is not, you know how everybody's not really cut out for the nine to five life?

Yes. , that was me. So I tried to drop outta grad school. My mom wouldn't let me cuz I had a full ride scholarship. She was so disappointed. So I stuck it out. , and I'm glad I did. I mean, I finished it, but working for the government in DC and my husband and I went to a game night and played cash flow. Have you played

[00:02:26] Naseema: before?

No, I've never played that game. And you know what's crazy is that I've heard your story a million times and I've, every time I hear it, I look for that game and it's like a million dollars because it's like, it's so out expensive. It's just like they don't make it anymore. So like people are reselling it and so I'm just like, I'm not about them.

Hey, all this money for this game, but I still really wanna play it. ,

[00:02:47] Kendra: I know it's so expensive. And I also like kind of feel some kind of way, it's, it's a big part of my story, but I also feel some kind of way about the person who created the game too and saw like, eh, do I wanna talk about it? But like, that's just part of my story.

I didn't really learn about passive income until playing that game because the only way to win is if your passive income is greater, greater than your expenses. The only way to do it, like you can't win that game. And, and for anyone listening, it's kind of like monopoly, but it's a little different. The only way to really win is to own real estate.

And so I basically walked away from, from that game saying, oh, I, we should probably own real estate. Right? And so that's how we kind of got into it. Super random .

[00:03:27] Naseema: But first of all, yes, the , the creative of that game can be very problematic. Yeah. But I think it, what it does is shift your mindset to thinking a way that we weren't taught to think, we were taught to check those boxes because that's what our parents knew to teach us.

Yeah. It was go to school, get the education, get that good government job. Yeah. stay there for, until it's time to retire, and then retire with a pension, because that to them was a secure path to success. But we weren't necessarily taught a different kind of money mindset. Like actually you can create all these other sources of income that you don't necessarily have to trade your time for money

[00:04:11] Kendra: for.

So that's the thing, because I was side hustling all throughout working my nine to five. , but there's like a cap on how many hours are in the day, right? Yes. And so it's like I couldn't side hustle my way free . I was trying to leave my job and it just was not wor, even though I had successful side hustles, it just wasn't enough.

But I do wanna encourage anyone on here too. Like you don't have to quit your nine to five to invest in real estate. I really, mm-hmm. suggest that you invest while working. It's easier that way, at least starting out. Yay, . But yeah, so that's, that's kind of the thing, like really having that passive.

[00:04:45] Naseema: So once you learned and you were just like, okay, I need to start investing in real estate, like how did you learn how to become a real estate investor?

[00:04:53] Kendra: Unfortunately experience was my best teacher was, was actually my teacher because podcasts like yours did not exist. People weren't on YouTube and social media showing the way, especially it is like real estate investing back in 2015 is when I bought my first property, real estate investing education back then was some like, Kind of sketchy thing.

You'd go to this hotel on the weekend, it's like a free seminar. You might be the only young person in the room, the only person of color in the room, and at the end of it you're pitched some like $20,000

[00:05:22] Naseema: program, right? $20,000 program that they tell you you have to be get A L L C. Yes. You have to do all these things and make it super complicated.

So that you can work with them. Yes. When it's

[00:05:35] Kendra: not that hard, it's not. Yeah. I mean, and the thing is too, like you don't, I think coaching and mentorship is, is key, right? Yes. It can be important in business and stuff. You don't need coaching and mentorship ever, but you're gonna pay, somehow. You're gonna pay with your experience, you're gonna pay with your money to skip the expensive mistakes and for.

I paid with my own time and experience. So just really got out there and started making the mistakes. We bought our first property in Washington, dc It was a duplex property in what people would call the hood, which is now one of the most sought after neighborhoods in dc which is how these things work.

Right.

[00:06:10] Naseema: I'm sure you've seen it too. Exactly.

[00:06:11] Kendra: Because you've, you were investing, I think you were investing before.

[00:06:15] Naseema: I started investing in 2000 and four. Yeah. Like in my second year of grad school. But girls a whole different ballgame cuz that was, it's different than like, yeah. That was like, you know, predatory lending time Yeah.

And all that kind of stuff and mm-hmm. even though, you know, I, I, and I wasn't educated. So . Yeah. By the time I was 25, I had five houses, lost them. in the in the downturn, but learned a whole lot .

[00:06:45] Kendra: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're gonna learn with your experience or mentorship. Yeah. You just gotta pick. But yeah, it's interesting how like real estate cycles, how they're, the times are just different.

Mm-hmm. . But yeah, we started back in 2015 and I immediately saw it as a way for me to leave my job, but I never. Like for us, my husband and I both left our government jobs. It was a way for us to get free, but we never saw it as, I think some people do, the financial independence retire early and they just like coast out the rest of their lives and that's fine.

For us, it was like, let's get free and figure out. , like pursue our passions and money will follow. Like, we'll still make money doing other things, but we don't have to make money. So real estate investing basically supports our lifestyle, like on the most basic level, but we still make money doing other things.

Like my husband, he does day trading. I have a book, like I have my online community. And so Also, honestly, early retirement looked so different for us because to be honest, we sold our house, we quit our job, sold our house. We were gonna, we were going to be nomads. We were gonna like go to like Bali for a few months and like just live this super Instagramable life.

But then we got pregnant so we ain't go nowhere. And so yeah, we got pregnant, moved to Texas to be close to family cuz we're gonna have a new baby. We need all the. And then the pandemic hit. And so here we are, newly self-employed with a new baby in a new city in a pandemic. And so it was just super ghetto all around.

It wasn't what we envisioned, honestly, but I'm still grateful that we could go through all those transitions and like work for ourselves.

[00:08:27] Naseema: Yeah, but I think that's , that's life, right? It's have all these wonderful things planned. And then life lives, and you're just like, listen, okay. But the thing about financial freedom is you have more opportunity to pivot and adjust.

Yeah. Instead of being stuck in a situation. Right. So . Thank God for that flexibility. Yeah. And you know, sad that you can't live that Instagram life , you know? And I feel you. I'm a hundred percent like, listen, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be a nomad and live all around the world. Yeah. It's hard when you got kids and I got, you know, three now.

[00:09:08] Kendra: You are amazing. I'm struggling with one, so girl, I kudos to you. I don't know how you doing it. . Like you are amazing .

[00:09:17] Naseema: Listen, I have a village. Good. It does definitely take a village, but it is hard as heck. . So I understand you relocating to being around family because listen, doing it by yourself is almost impossible.

It's impossible.

[00:09:30] Kendra: Mm-hmm. .

[00:09:31] Naseema: Yeah. . So I know that you guys are pursuing your passions, but I've seen you do so many phenomenal things. One of the things that I love, love, love watching is like your Airbnb transformations and all your house hacking things that you do. Can you share with us like what you've done as far as like with your real estate and the ones that you, that you actually.

or do you, you're, you buy and hold for the most part, right? Oh,

[00:10:00] Kendra: yeah, yeah. I forgot to mention that. Yes. So we're buy and hold investors. We've never flipped a property and there's nothing wrong with flipping properties. It just hasn't worked out for us. We, that we haven't come across an opportunity that's been good for us yet.

But, so . We have done a little bit of everything, Airbnb, travel nurse rentals, which is like my new favorite kind of niche to focus on. So travel nurses, of course, you know about travel nurses, but travel nurses, they move from like hospital to hospital every three months, usually on a rotation. And so they're looking for

furnished spaces, and we've done section eight. We've done, like I said, Airbnb. We've done like just your regular. , you know, everyday tenant and I, I do love like the, the furnished rentals cuz then I can go like, spend money on the cutest decor and like do little makeovers,

[00:10:46] Naseema: which I was gonna say, girl, I'll be jocking your style.

Like, I'm like, oh my God. Kendra is so talented when it comes to home decor. I'm so basic. But when I see those transformations and it's not expensive and I'm be like, it doesn't have to have to be expensive, I so listen, I'm gonna just need you to open up a design

[00:11:06] Kendra: wing. for my friends have always said that.

I, I truly love it. It's funny cuz. The we bought a four unit building was our third property that we had bought as a four unit, and we originally saw it. We wanted to make it a bed and breakfast because the way that it was like laid out. Oh yeah. We're like, man, this would be so dope. It's a bed and breakfast.

And that was our vision for it. But we bought it and then there were section eight tenants already in it. and once we start seeing that Section eight rental income coming in, we were like, this is way easier than like transforming this whole place. Cuz you'd have to like renovate it and furnish it. Yes.

Mm-hmm. and people, and I say this to say like, first make sure you can always pivot, right? Because your first plan might not always work out. But also like, I think Section eight gets a bad rap when it comes to any like using it as a rental income. , and it's not always bad. It is people who had Section eight renters in the pandemic were the landlords that were getting paid no matter what, right?

Mm-hmm. , it's, it's a, mm-hmm. , you know, it's a really a secure form of rental income. And I just wanna say too, that you can get bad tenants. Who were Section eight or not ?

[00:12:13] Naseema: Listen, some of the worst tens I've had are the ones that had those good jobs. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . And so

[00:12:20] Kendra: it's like, yeah, I don't, don't think Section eight is bad, it's just all about really just screening in general.

So I just wanted to throw that out there. But yeah, we, we thought we were gonna have a bed and breakfast cuz I got all excited about doing the whole thing. But honestly, you sometimes you just gotta follow the money. And what makes the most financial sense, especially when you're first starting out,

[00:12:39] Naseema: 100%.

100%. But I think one of the things that I've learned from you is, How to really screen tenants, like you said. Mm-hmm. like it, you can have a bad tenant from any situation. Yeah. But the key is to really screen tenants and I think that's like one of the things that you really share in your community.

Yeah. And help people learn because I know like that's like the biggest fear for people becoming landlords and even me, so I'm a. And I always have a room in my house. Cause I, I love house hacking. I always have a room in my house that's available for travel nurses, and I'm a single mom. I have little kids and people are like, well, aren't you really scared?

I'm like, first of all, , they're nurses. So they're background checked. They're fingerprinted. Yes. And plus you take time to get to know people before. Yep. You, you have them in your house and their screening processes for that. And so I think so PE so many people are hesitant to be landlords or even house hacked because.

they, they're in fear that, you know, somebody is gonna do something to them or it's gonna be an uncomfortable situation. And it really doesn't have

[00:13:51] Kendra: to be. It doesn't have to be. And like, like you said, I mean for me, honestly, travel nurses have been the best tenants we've had in however many years, what's been seven years doing this.

And also, You can, I mean, you can talk to the previous landlord, right? You can. I always talk to the travel nurses on the phone or any tenants on the phone or meet them in person. It's really important to also like screen every single person who's gonna be living there, who's gonna be on the lease, not just like one person.

The reason I love travel nurses too is because like you said, say you do get a travel nurse living in your basement or in, in a room in your house and y'all just don't vibe. They're only gonna be there for a short amount of time. right? In about two months, they're gonna be gone, you know, and so it's, that's why I love the flexibility of that rather than signing like a year long lease with somebody that you're stuck with.

But also,

[00:14:40] Naseema: if you have a really good relationship with travel nurses and if they have a really good assignment, they'll. also extend and stay on. Yes. I love that. And so that's, that's one less person that you have to turn over because I've had, I've had nurses stay with me for years at a time. Yep. So

[00:14:56] Kendra: the nurse who's in our Baltimore property right now, this is his like third extension.

And so with travel nurses, if you think they come every three months, you'll have like four tenants a year. But for us, we will, we will have only had two tenants this year? Well, within the last like 12 months. Mm-hmm. , I mean, this year is kind of still new, but you know what I'm saying. Right, right. Because he's, he's extended so many times, so I love getting that email.

But I was gonna say, one of the tips that I always use, which I always be hesitant to kind of share this because. I don't want renters like using it against landlords. Mm-hmm. . But listen, y'all like it can be scary trying to call their their current landlord or previous landlords. Cause you don't know if it's a friend.

Right. And so I always call and say, instead of saying, Hey, Nasima wrote you down as a reference, she wants to stay at my place. I would say, do you have any apartments available for rent or do you have any rooms available for rent? And if the person on the other end of the phone is. This is the wrong number.

I don't know what you talking about. I don't have any apartments like you got the wrong person. Then that gives me indication that it's probably one of their friends, right? Mm-hmm. . If the person on the other end of the line is like, oh yeah, I have two apartments available, or, Nope, I just rented them, you know, giving you some indication that they're actually a property manager or a landlord, then I trust that source.

You know, more. So that's one tip I use to kind of make sure I'm getting a reliable resource. Yeah, I

[00:16:16] Naseema: li . I like that because I was gonna, I was actually gonna ask you to share that because I was like, oh my God, that's so genius. Because yeah, so many people use their friends even for nurses, , I have to say, I mean, I've been used as a reference for a lot of things.

but I mean, legitimately, I'm like, usually they're still, I'm their friend, but usually I'm still their charge nurse. So . Yeah. It's like, well, how could they, they really wouldn't really know because they don't really check. But that's a, A genius.

[00:16:48] Kendra: Yeah. Yeah. So that's one thing. And then just too, to like the bad tenant thing.

If you're renting, if you're listening to this right now and you're renting, or if you've ever rented in your life, were you a bad tenant? Like probably not. Like I was a really good tenant. And there are people out there like you and like me, who actually take care of their spaces. And so I think there's this like fear of getting this bad person who's gonna ruin your space and all that, and it might not be the case.

Yeah,

[00:17:16] Naseema: I but I think that's with everything, like people lead with fear. Mm-hmm. , and that's why I think that it's really important that you share a lot of money mindset tips in your content because you can't get to where you wanna be financially unless you ship. Your money mindset and I know Yeah. For people that look like us.

Yeah. That comes with a lot of trauma healing and a lot of things that we have experienced or that has been passed down to us. Yeah. That, you know, we might just need a little bit more support around like therapy, you know, .

[00:17:50] Kendra: Yes. That that is key. And that's why I think is so important for me doing what I do right now, just being rep, like that representation.

 Because I think people need to see themselves represented. So they'll see me online and be like, oh, if she can do it. Like I was not born into wealth. I did not hit the lottery. I did not always have good money habits, and I'm talking like well into my twenties, did not have good money habits. And so if I can do this, then anybody can do it.

That's why it's really important for me to show up like on, even though sometimes I really wanna get off Instagram, I really just. I just really wanna get off. Social media people are so mean, and just the internet is strange. people are

[00:18:29] Naseema: mean. All these scammers, like scammers. It's just not, oh my God, it is.

So like, is it worth it? It's, and just like, I, I just want my time back. Listen, listen. I'm like, I need to post content, but I'm just like, but I don't wanna. I mean, I know, I mean, I know the people need it and all that kind of stuff, and that's really the only reason why I do it. That's it. But it has become such a task when it used to be something

[00:18:56] Kendra: that was fun.

So fun. . It gets really overwhelming sometimes. But then you get those messages, like for me, if someone's like, oh, you inspired me to do X, Y, z I bought a duplex and my husband pointed something out the other day, well, a little while ago he was just like, just think you didn't just change that person's life.

Like now they're family for generations. Right. It's gonna be changed because, and the same thing with you, like the financial tips that you share and stuff, cuz it's not. Always about real estate investing first. Like there are just some basic financial things people need to, to learn from and grow from.

It's like you're changing someone's story for generations now and that's really huge. And that's kind of why, why I wrote the book too. Because yes, I really wanna make that like lasting impact. And I wanted something off of social media too that would be around for a long time. . I think even though it's hard, we are like helping a lot of people along the way and that's why we show up.

[00:19:53] Naseema: Right. But not only like this book that you wrote, I just wanna say is like so beautiful. Oh, thank you. And we talk about representation and it's not just you. You took the time to highlight so many other people in a beautiful way. , first of all, my kids look at this and then they know it's possible for them.

Yeah, so I'm, I'm making . I intentionally have all my table books. They're all like of black people, black women, black, successful, and so it normalizes that for them. Yeah. There's no like vogue or all that stuff on my tabletops, like it's always. Images of black successful people, stories of black women who have presented Yeah.

And made it. But this, the book is just so well done. Thank you. Thank you. And you know, I'm, I'm like, I applaud you because I'm just like, first of all, that just speaks to like your creativity because like, You know, I wrote a book. Okay, whatever. But I'm just like, how come I didn't think about making a table book?

First of all, you know, , like, it's so much more

[00:21:03] Kendra: aesthetically you still do it, girl . I

[00:21:06] Naseema: know. I can't down be like, I'm biting off a Kendra now.

[00:21:09] Kendra: No, , listen, let's talk after we, you can do it. It's

[00:21:14] Naseema: so aesthetically plea. But it's just like, like I said, it's something that people come to your house and they pick up and they see, and you never know.

Just like that board game inspired you like that can inspire them. And I love that. It's something, again, taking off of social media, but that can touch so many and like, just like you're saying. . It's touching generations. At least for me. I know. So thank you. A super dope gift. to give people, that

[00:21:44] Kendra: means a lot life.

I appreciate that. Cause I like imposter syndrome did hold me back. Like I put that book on the shelf for a while. Like I started it and. , I would stop and start. And I was also at home with a toddler all day during a pandemic doing that

[00:21:59] Naseema: book. Okay, let's not downplay

[00:22:02] Kendra: that. Listen she, she did not go to daycare until she was three years old.

We was at home in the trenches.

[00:22:07] Naseema: Okay. No, that's the struggle. Like, I don't know how you did that.

[00:22:11] Kendra: I honestly don't either. I look back and I'm like, what was I thinking? It was, it was tough. But yeah, I'm really proud of the book. , I really believe it's gonna inspire a lot of people. And I really just wanted to like be the change I, I wanted to see.

Right. There was nothing, there was no coffee table book about black real estate investors. Yes. And so now there is, and my plan is to have like multiple volumes of acres. Like I wanna highlight more stories. Learned a lot of lessons with this book. I know, you know, as an author , like your first book, there's a lot of lessons learned.

Yes. But I'm, and it's, it didn't really turn. How I first envisioned it, but to see that it's still like, So impactful for so many people. I'm like, okay. So I kind of, I feel like I'm on my, on my Issa Rae journey. Like I had envisioned that I was gonna be, my first book was gonna be like Issa Rae, h b o, insecure.

But you know, you gotta start somewhere. So I, in my mind, yes, in my mind, it's like Issa Rae YouTube, but we going to get to.

[00:23:12] Naseema: But listen, I I, you couldn't have told me. Now, the only reason why I know you even had any hiccups along the journey, and I, correct me if I'm wrong, you self-published this mm-hmm.

like you did all this work by yourself. Yeah. The only re the only way I even knew is cuz I just happened to listen to an Instagram live when you were breaking down that journey. And I was like, girl, But I could relate cuz I still have P T S D writing my book and I did it through a non-traditional publisher, even though I didn't self-publish, but it was, I had to write it at eight weeks.

Oh my gosh. During covid, As a nurse. .

[00:23:50] Kendra: Oh my God. And a mom.

[00:23:52] Naseema: And a mom. Yes. Imagine. And during Covid, my daughter was just starting kindergarten, so I would work all night, then she would be home, then she would need help with her homework. She can't read the instructions. Yes. So now I'm the teacher. So like it was

[00:24:10] Kendra: strong.

I don't know when you slept. I don't know when you. That was

[00:24:14] Naseema: a very challenging time for me. Yeah. Like super hard. That's why I'm just like, I have been approached to write another book and I'm just like, like honestly, I, I get a lot of anxiety cuz I'm just like, that was a lot.

[00:24:31] Kendra: Yeah, it, it is. But your book is a great gift too.

I've gifted it as well, so. Aw, thank

[00:24:36] Naseema: you. Thank you. Thank you . So what's next,

[00:24:42] Kendra: Kendra? You know, I don't know. I just take it day by day. Like right now I'm focusing on getting ready for book two. Like for my book, what people see. It may seem like stories are just submitted and I just like put 'em in a book and like pictures of people I really do interviews like this.

And then I get them transcribed and then I write them in first person as if the person told it themselves. And then there's editing and then I. Coordinate photo shoots of the people, and then there's design. And so for me, right now, I don't have any coaching or mentorship. I'm not like promoting any classes, which I used.

I used to do a lot of that. I don't know, you know, back in the day I was always doing the class or a course. Mm-hmm. , I'm really focusing on the book. I'm about to do like a small book tour to try to sell the rest of these books that I have in inventory and then get ready for the, the second volume. . So that's really it.

Well,

[00:25:32] Naseema: you have to come to

[00:25:32] Kendra: California . I really want to, because one of the, one of the people in the book actually two people that are in the book are out in California. And so my plan is to go to like each city that's represented there. Mm-hmm. , but right now I'm just starting on the east coast. I've done, well, I've already done Atlanta.

I've done Dallas, but I'll be doing Baltimore in DC in. And then hopefully I'll get to the west coast. So yeah, that's, that's really it. Focusing on that. And then, I don't know, toddler mom life, like she's still only in school two days a week for half a day. So literally Exactly. Child next, next year.

I'm, I don't even make no sense. It, it really does not, I'm questioning my judgment, like, why did I set myself up for this? So she will be home in like 15 minutes and all. Chaos will . So, yeah, that's, that's really it, girl. I'll just be, I don't know, taking it day by day.

[00:26:28] Naseema: girl, I feel you a hundred percent. Like listen, as intentional ass.

I try to be woo. This baby number three right here is throwing me for a loop. So we shall see . I know that day to day life. Yeah. But how is the, how is the second volume of acres different? Gonna be different from the

[00:26:47] Kendra: first volume? . Ooh. I am gonna be more intentional about sharing the behind the scenes.

I was so overwhelmed, and I don't know if you did this for your book or not, but I was so overwhelmed with the process that I feel like I didn't bring my audience along. And I think that No, I did not You didn't? Yeah. It was, it's so hard to like, do both. Yeah. Hard. I really wanna be, yes. I wanna be more intentional about documenting it and just getting like more input and feedback so I can make the next one even better.

But, Yeah, that's, that's really what I'm gonna focus on. We should

[00:27:20] Naseema: have, you should do like a acres behind the scenes Instagram live with these people. , like, I

[00:27:27] Kendra: like that idea. That's a really good idea. So . Yeah. So stay tuned for that. You guys can find me at the key resource on Instagram if you wanna see some behind the scenes once that gets started.

[00:27:39] Naseema: Yes. And then I'll put a link to get the Anchors book. Are you pre-selling this book

[00:27:45] Kendra: yet? No. No. It's not available for pre-sell yet? No. Okay.

[00:27:50] Naseema: When, like, is there a timeline for when you think you're gonna release it, pre-sell it?

[00:27:55] Kendra: Probably. February, like my ideal time to launch is like Black History Month because the book is Black History.

So I'm thinking like, so it'll be a long way out, but if you wanna buy this current volume, like the first one yeah, the link will be, I guess, in the show notes or mm-hmm. Wherever, but, Yeah, so stay tuned for the next one, , but

[00:28:15] Naseema: still, shoot, next February is still a time , I,

[00:28:19] Kendra: its for me, just like tight, I would, God, it's so tight.

I would say definitely for, for a pre-order. It is not gonna be, because this, you know, coffee table books take so long to print and to like Right. All that. It's such a process.

[00:28:32] Naseema: Didn't you say something about like your first printing came out and you was. Oh no. Like the size was off. Like it was just not what you

[00:28:40] Kendra: expected.

Yeah, and honestly, because of the tight timelines and how expensive it was, I didn't even see the actual finished product until all 2000 books were on my doorstep. Like so here I am, spent all this money. Imagine writing a check to a printing company for $20,000 and not seeing the. until it arrives. Yeah.

[00:29:01] Naseema: That is really, really

[00:29:02] Kendra: scary. That's really, really scary. So stressful. Grandma. My blood pressure was, you would've wanted to admit me to the , to the er. . It's like 1 79 over one 20 or Well, grace. Oh yeah. . Oh

[00:29:16] Naseema: yeah. So, you know, lessons learned. That's why

[00:29:18] Kendra: I'm saying you guys experience is often, you know, your best teacher.

But I do want to encourage anyone if you are interested in investing in real. . I wanna encourage you that first you are worthy of wealth. Mm-hmm. , you have everything it takes to get started. Like no step is too small. Mm. and just really make sure you start out with a specific money goal and kind of work backwards from there.

But if you guys are looking for any tips or advice or resources, you can find me, like I said, on Instagram at the key resource. I have resources and the link of my bio. I have an amazing Facebook group too which is with experienced and aspiring investors. So lots of awesome, it's just a really good community.

So if y'all wanna join that, but I Thank you. Put the

[00:29:57] Naseema: Facebook group in the show notes as well, because I'll be, I don't even , I'm not even a real estate investor, but sometimes I go in there and I learn some really interesting things and like it mm-hmm. , like anytime I think I'm my sister, start investing in real estate, like I have, I have my moments where I'm like,

[00:30:13] Kendra: I'm gonna start invest.

You wanna get back in it? Yes,

[00:30:16] Naseema: I start there. Like I always look around and there's so many gyms in that community, so I'll drop it there, but I'm Thank you. Like girl, let me know when this book goes on presale cuz I will be the first to buy it, first to share it because it's just so beautiful and you, it's just something that I feel like.

We need, we all need, our kids need to see these things. They need to know what's possible. But also like it get, it puts the face to so many people who we didn't even know were doing these things. Yeah. Like, unless you would've shared them. So I think it gives a face and a voice to so many people who are out here doing, Really, really big things in our community.

So I really appreciate you putting that together and Yay, I'm super looking forward to volume too. .

[00:31:05] Kendra: Thank you ma'am. Thanks for having me too.

[00:31:07] Naseema: Well, thank you so much Kendra. I really appreciate you being on.

[00:31:11] Kendra: Okay. And if you guys have any questions, you can definitely DM me. Thank you, Naima. And hopefully we can do this again.

Yes.

Hey there I’m Naseema

My dream is for everyone to know that financial independence is attainable with a little intentionality. Learn how I can help you finally break the cycle of living paycheck to paycheck.

Learn about the course

---

Join the Facebook Community

Join the Financially Intentional community and get access to resources to guide you on the path to Financial Freedom.

---

Watch these Videos To Learn How to…

---

Keep Listening

Here are some more episodes you may enjoy…