This Nurse Helps Other Nurses Grow Profitable Health Writing Businesses - Ep. 63
Janine Kelbach, RNC-OB, has extensive experience as an RN in the labor and delivery setting. She works as an OB educator and charge nurse parttime while hosting The Savvy Scribe Podcast. In 2012, Janine began writing on healthcare topics for various blogs and websites. She now coaches others to do the same. Besides writing, Janine enjoys spending time with her family and their Great Danes.
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Naseema McElroy: [00:00:00] All right, Nurses on Fire. We are back with Janine Kelbach the owner of Write RN in and the host of the savvy scribe podcast. How you doing Jenny?
Janine Kelbach: [00:00:14] I am doing so well. How are you?
Naseema McElroy: [00:00:17] I am doing amazing. And I was really looking forward to talking with you because you just like me, our labor and delivery nurse and RNC OB, which I'm not really currently right now.
Cause I let mine lapse, but I know the pain.
Janine Kelbach: [00:00:35] Yes. Yes.
Naseema McElroy: [00:00:38] And you have extensive experience as a nurse, but you're also able to do some incredible things outside of nursing. So let's just hop into your story and let's talk about your nursing origin story. How did you become a nurse?
Janine Kelbach: [00:00:49] So I became a nurse. I was a single mom actually for four years and I became a nurse when my son was one years old and. He took his first step to cross the stage when I get pinned. Yeah. It was the best. And, he and I, I struggled, you know, has single moms let's do. And, you know, I worked a lot of night shifts and I wanted to just be.
The best that I could be. And I think that I see it in myself and I see it in a lot of others, people work ethic. And when you have work ethic, it doesn't matter where you work or who you work for. You work hard. And that's what I did. I worked hard. I, you know, I worked, my first job was actually burger King.
You know, a young kid and I was the best closer they had. Like, I, I pride myself in that because that means I was a hard worker and I brought that over to my nursing career, but I always, I think I just had a good work ethic that it never really felt like hard work. I always gave it the best I could to my job and to my patients and my professional education and responsibility to just.
Do my best to be the best labor and delivery nurse that could be so over time, my dream in a sense back then was to work at one of our tertiary centers in the inner city. And I knew when I came on of nursing school, that I had to stay at our community hospital just to kind of have a break in a sense, learn my labor delivery skills there.
And you know, about two years later, I took it over to that tertiary center and I worked there for a few years. Then I came back. To the community hospital. Cause my husband and I were together and, we weren't married yet, but we were talking about that and talking about life. And as much as I love that hospital still loved that hospital.
I went back to the community hassle. Well, because it fit better with my family. And that was probably the first time in my life that I was like, this it's better with my family. I gotta do gotta do my family. So I took a facilitator position, like the assistant nurse manager type of role, a night shift.
And I really loved it because I got to help. Nurses, you know, all the new nurses come to nights. So I got to help those new nurses. And I, we didn't have like an educator at that point point or anything, but I would help them set goals and get them there. The opportunities in labor and delivery like, Oh, you need to catch more babies.
Let's all right. Your goal this week is to catch four more of them. You need to get better at your surgical exams. Okay. You're going to check every patient who has an epidural, so you can get better at that. And people loved it and people thrived on it and people would stick around and there wasn't any turnover and all these things.
So then. Had our second son. And then I, was able to do a day shift position, after 10 years of night shift, you know, specialty roles. And, then I got to go to Daysha. So I had to let the facilitator role goal, but I was able to do, charge nurse and scrub nurse. And I always had this connection with our physicians that other nurses, I don't want to say were jealous of somewhere, but they were, Curious, because they'd never understood how I got along with the physician.
So well, and I didn't know either. I just said I talked to them like everyone else.
Naseema McElroy: [00:03:57] Yep. I understand. Yep.
Janine Kelbach: [00:03:59] So we had a very good mutual respect with each other and, They knew on night shift. I was their go to all the time so they could just build it trust. So over time did that for a little bit, but then, you know, you get burned out.
I was starting to work a lot of shifts, just because we were short staffed and all the things, and I was tired. I had this newborn and all the things. So it drove me because somebody came to me and said, Janine, I think you'll really like this type of job. I said, what what's that we have, home care patients is back in Cleveland.
So you would be with those patients that you love from. Metro that the hospital here in Cleveland. And, but you go to their houses and you take care of them in their houses. And I'm like, it wasn't that dangerous. Like, yeah, it is a little bit, but you know, you'll love it. Okay. And I'm like, I did, I loved it.
I would, the patients from 16 weeks to 36 weeks, they would get their progesterone shots. And I would also see hyperemesis patients that do IVs in their homes. I loved it.
Naseema McElroy: [00:04:55] Oh my God. That sounds like a dream job. Actually.
Janine Kelbach: [00:04:59] They paid us so well. And then I got the taste of entrepreneurship in a sense. I got to work on my own.
I would take my little laptop and do my charting at McDonald's with a cup of coffee, somewhere safe. And. I loved it. I got this rapport with patients. I knew I was doing a good job. I only need to talk to my boss if I needed something, otherwise she would see my results and see everybody was taken care of.
And, and I felt like so good about it. I felt like I wasn't working for someone I was working with for these people and working with these, these patients. So the kicker was, I got a call one day, go out to one of the patients houses and they're a fighting dog. I'm one of their pit bulls that me and it was awful.
I had like a winter coat on, cause we have cold winters here. I had winter coat on a fleece jacket, my scrub top and a tee shirt. And the dog was able to go through that and it was attacking me because I gave mama shut and she was on the couch and facing the couch. So she didn't see the dog coming.
Neither did I and literally just attack me. So I was like, Oh my gosh, I was never scared of dogs or anything, but then that, Oh, it was awful. So my husband's like, listen, you got to, like, I know you love this and I never would tell you not to follow your dreams or anything, but you gotta think about it. You know, you got two little kids at home and me and where are you go in Cleveland, the customer, his who is a detective. He goes, we don't go to that area without two cops. Why is your wife going there? I ended up having to get my conceal carry. Carry a gun there. Cause my patients told me to like, it was a dangerous, Oh my God.
Naseema McElroy: [00:06:34] Ooh, chills.
Janine Kelbach: [00:06:35] So it just got to a point, right? Not that I would ever do something only for the money, but they did pay very well.
And around the time ago, Got bit by the dog. I was going through all the police reports and everything that I had to do for the job. And they said, Oh, by the way, we are actually cutting your pay down to X amount of dollars, which was actually you were it out. It was a quarter of the amount that we were getting paid.
Cause we would get paid per patient and they were paying us per day. So the way they did it, no, I was like, and I'm done. So went back. So I started going for my BSN then. And. I was like, what do you think, do you think we could do this financially without me going back to work full time?
Cause I, I ended up going part time and then doing the home care on the side. And my husband's like, yeah, I think we could do it. You know, don't burn yourself. Self out and go to school and all that. So we ended up doing that, but then while I was, my grandma was sick and , I like to write the papers.
Like I'm weird. I really like to write my papers in my BSN. I really like enjoyed it. And I thought, I always liked to write. I always like to create stories. I wrote on like, I wrote poems for the high school and I always wrote things like for people all the time, nothing crazy, but I, Enjoyed it. And when my grandma was dying, I was sitting at her bedside at hospice a lot.
And I had my laptop with me and I was just curious, like, what else I could do on the side as a nurse and writing came up, not for nursing, but it just said like, you can work from home and do writing. And I was like, huh. Okay. So I tried it and I got a client and I got a whole $5, an article ad it's like 300 words.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, it wasn't the amount of money I made. It was the sense that this existed and you can be profitable at it. Like you can sit here next to my grandma at the time or at home, in my pajamas while my kid napped or something and make money. And I was like, Oh my gosh, no, I didn't tell my husband or anything.
I didn't tell him until I started having like a couple of clients here and there. And I'm like, yeah, by the way, you know, it's not much, but I made an extra 400 bucks this month and I thought, yeah, that's like a 12 hour shift. I think I could do this. And I slowly but surely kind of figured that out and.
Had mentors along the way and did it. So then I became a writer. So I was always a writer before I took my education, which I'm in now. they just came to me because they knew I liked it and we didn't have an educator. So I took that on and they do that kind of part time now. And I work PRN and staffing because I can't get away from them babes.
Yes.
Naseema McElroy: [00:09:27] I love it. I love it. But how did your writing transition into like health care topics?
Janine Kelbach: [00:09:33] So my first real health client was actually through Healthline.com who now do like a whole bunch of like in house kind of stuff. Cause it got so big. Yeah. But they were my first client and they weren't even, I didn't even write.
At first I did a lot of medical reviewing and I was writing then for a client for free on decoded science or something like that, but they want to be right on labor and delivery topics. And I was like, okay, like my favorite thing in the world. So I did that, but then helpline was like my money maker, one kind of, so they had these medical review things and then I just stuck my head out there.
I was like, do you need help with writing stuff too? And they're like, well, yeah, Oh, really? So then I just, I was so nervous though. I started writing yeah. And wrote for them for a few articles. It was great. And then I just started pitching other places, my ideas, or what I thought might fit with their audience.
And then other people would pay me. And it was just a snowball effect. Kind of, you just keep piling all of that on.
Naseema McElroy: [00:10:36] I love it. So, but how did you re like know which places to reach out to, like by this time, were you like experiencing, you kind of knew like the back door to get to, like editors of these, of major like healthcare magazines or
Janine Kelbach: [00:10:50] sure. I actually started with a group, you know, I feel like one of my biggest. Like mentorship kind of things that I tell people is that find a tribe, whoever that is in your, you know, niche of nursing. Do you want to find labor and delivery nurses, if you're a leader and delivery nurse and who understand you, and you might be in a book group on Facebook of other labor and delivery nurses or whatever that might be for me, there was no nurse writers in a group that I could find anywhere back then, but there were freelance writers and there were freelance writers that were moms.
And I put those together because I figured I'm a mom. Yeah, I'm a nurse, but I'm a mom. And I like to write, and these women are making money. Doing what I'm doing. So I introduce myself to them and ask them like, what kind of clients, you know, role for and how I could, like how I should, or who I should be pitching to, because it was very overwhelming and yeah.
Subs because you know, you see out there those big name, magazines, and. Pitching for magazines is kind of hard because a lot of the pitching for magazines is overwhelming. In the sense of you send out a query to a magazine editor, and you may not hear back back for three or six months because they are so overwhelmed with as many pictures as they get.
And, you know, they're in New York city and all the things. So at first it took me a while. I was kinda not niche enough. Like I was kind of just thinking, like writing in Google, like health topics for a nurse to write or health topics to write for companies, you know, things like that. Yeah. Or I started looking at, what do I read?
What do I like, what am I, what do I refer my patients to? And I started looking at that. I look at competitors of health line, I'd look at, just different things like that. I would also write for parenting magazines and stuff, because that was a thing too, because they, I always wanted a nurse to write because they want a medical information for like new moms or, you know, breastfeeding or whatever it was.
So, yeah. I did some stuff over with some parenting magazines and we have like a parody magazine in my area that's free. To the public and they pay very little like $75 an article, but it's so cool to just see your name in a magazine. And like everybody reads it because it's the free local magazine.
So, you know, just a little bit, yeah, back a little bit. It's not always about the money it's so tight. It's just, just seeing your name in lights a little bit. So that's kind of the long way around it is. You have to really think about you. Think about the target audience you want to write towards, a lot of.
A lot of companies that I work with right now are actually towards nurses. So yeah. We've been doing a lot of content related to COVID-19 right. And nurses, how they're going to deal with that burnout. building just yourself, like self care, because it's just a lot of things that are lacking right now.
Naseema McElroy: [00:13:46] Yeah. And now you actually teach other people how to write. Right. So you have a coaching program that helps people, right. Is it just for nurses or is it for everyone?
Janine Kelbach: [00:13:57] So I always say it's for everyone, but I feel like you almost have to have some sort of niche in a sense. So it's for like physical therapists and pharmacists and everybody in the healthcare sector in a sense, because that's kind of what I relate a lot of my examples to.
So it's just more relatable, but inside. Like the course I teach it's called play and create launch land and grow your writing business. But none in there, you won't hear me say, this is how you write, because I don't feel that's my mastery. I don't feel like that. I am some sort of English major or journalism major because I'm not.
And that actually held me back for a little bit to say that I was even a writer because I didn't feel like I was a writer because I wasn't an English major. So. it's still, I guess, kind of a thing that holds me back a little bit, because I always feel like when I start to teach the craft of writing, I want the experts to come in and teach that craft of writing.
But what I have figured out is when I figured out how to do it for myself is how to play and create launch land and grow the business. So it's all the business side and how to get clients and how to understand what you're going to write. Not so much the craft of how to write it.
Naseema McElroy: [00:15:15] But, you know what I think you have to be an excellent writer in order to be as successful as you are.
So I think oftentimes because, you know, we look at ourselves first as nurses, it's hard to think of ourselves as experts in other areas. And that's the same thing. Like when you said that it resonated so much. With me about like finance, like, no, I'm not a personal finance expert, but that's what makes me unique.
And that's what makes people be able to relate to me. And I think that's the same thing about you not being a professional writer or an English major. I mean, your writing is what people want to read, because it sounds like it's coming from them. And so they can really hear it and feel it. And so I think that we should be able to embrace.
That because we aren't technical experts, we are still experts in our craft. And so , I'm going to go ahead and say, yes, you are a professional writer.
Janine Kelbach: [00:16:16] Cool. Thank you. Well, thank you. I also figured out along the way that everything is figureoutable. That's how I like to say it truly, like, I think I learned how to fix something in my house the other day.
Cause of YouTube. Now I'm a professional, you know what I mean? there's plenty. Yeah. Plenty of better writers than me out there, but I can craft a good piece. I'll say that.
Naseema McElroy: [00:16:41] But you are successful, you are successful. And that's the whole thing. And I just feel like as long as you can find a way to turn your skills into something, that number one is something that people can actually use and benefit from.
And then it's also something that you have used to generate more income for yourself. You are a professional, so that's what matters.
Janine Kelbach: [00:17:03] Yes. Thank you.
Naseema McElroy: [00:17:04] Thank you. Thank you. So you are a labor and delivery nurse, a nurse educator, a charge nurse, a professional writer, and a writing coach, girl. Where do you find time?
In the day? And also let's also include the fact that you have kids. You're a mom, you're a wife. And you have two big humongous dogs.
Janine Kelbach: [00:17:30] I do. I do. how do I find the time? I'm very good with time management. Extremely good to a point that you have. When I started my business, people would always be like, how do you get everything done all the time?
I don't know. I mean, I do know I have systems and processes in place to get things done. I always have. And. I thrive on being busy in a sense. That's how I, I really like to be all the time, but I don't feel like I should.
Naseema McElroy: [00:17:54] the nurse, it's the nurse in you?
Janine Kelbach: [00:17:56] Yeah, I don't Slack in anywhere, anywhere in my life.
yeah. But I have been at those times where I've taken on too much. And, you know, I think it's just inside of yourself to say like, that's why I had to go PRN recently in the staffing role. Well, because I became a homeschooling mother, so I had to step back cause I can't handle it all. And the older I get, the more I'm able to see that, that, you don't have to do it all.
You really don't.
Naseema McElroy: [00:18:36] What do you do tell people who think that it's impossible to do that, especially with you working and being a mom?
Janine Kelbach: [00:18:44] Well, I think that's probably the biggest struggle for all the nurses that want to learn to write, or start a business, I should say, because I feel like they all know how to write a lot of them.
Do I rarely have a nurse that can't craft something. but. The biggest thing that holds people back is starting. And I always say, you need to look at your day and start to figure out those gaps of time to try to start a business. And it's not to overwhelm you. cause here's the reality.
You could go to work again for another 12 hour shifts if you really want to. But if you're on night shift, you're now taking away that night from your family and now sleeping half the day. The next day, when you could have just taken a little four hour chunk out of your one day and seen, can I do something like this and.
You absolutely can. I started my business when my son would sleep for two hours or in the early mornings before he got up. That's how I kind of did things. And even now I still get up before my kids and do my hard work before they wake up in the morning and people are like, you're crazy. I'm not a morning person.
Well, there are the people that do that at night and. I'm not an it person. So it is what it is. You just put yourself in a season of life that you're in and make it work. You have to have the intention, the motivation to start, and once you start, don't go back.
Naseema McElroy: [00:20:10] Yes, that is so good. What do you tell nurses that are looking for a side hustle that may be interested in writing, but never thought of themselves as a writer?
Janine Kelbach: [00:20:23] Well, I tell them two things. Writing might not be for you. It might not be for you at all. And you could try it out. And there are people that are like, I don't like this.
Just think it's like, if you went to like a psych ward and you're like, Oh, I to try psych nursing and you got there and you're like, ah, I don't like this. That's okay. You ain't start, you like drift, but you didn't. And that's okay to say, you know, I wanted to try writing, but it wasn't for me. So if you, if you try it cool, if you don't, that's fine too, but I would suggest you just pitch somebody, anybody that, you know, might want your work.
Or say you have an awesome idea. Say encourage you to look at the problems in your unit as a nurse, look where you are, like, why can't we do this better? Why can't we do this better? our teamwork sucks. Why can't we work together? Why can't we do this? Because you have an idea of how that could happen.
Share that idea. Because somebody else is either thinking it or they haven't thought of it. And now you are, and they want to jump on that too and make, whatever process better. So just try it, see if you like it. If you don't like it, you don't have to do it, or you might like it, but you don't want to do it full time.
And there's nothing wrong with that. You could still be a nurse and be a writer. That's what's so cool. Cause we have these careers that are so flexible with our time. That you can do that on the side. Now there are other like remote type of jobs, like a side job. And or if you just don't want to be in the hospital anymore, it doesn't mean you're not a nurse.
I encourage those who want to be at the bedside to be at the bedside because Lord knows we need all the nurses we pass. We can at bedside right now, but my friend Sadie runs the remote. Oh nurse, group over on Facebook and the website and , she finds jobs that are remote for nurses. Like there's so many ways to be a nurse.
This is just my calling to, you know, be a writer to help patients and to help other nurses. It's just another way to help.
Naseema McElroy: [00:22:17] Wow. I love it. I love it. So if people are interested in writing and seeing if it's something that is. Good for them. How can they connect with you and access your course and your services?
Janine Kelbach: [00:22:31] There's a couple of places you could just go to the website. It's the savvy scribe podcast.com. And you could click on courses and go to the courses there. You could just click around. I have a podcast. You could take a listen. I think a lot of people find me through my podcasts. Because they're probably searching in like iTunes or something side jobs for nurses or writing job or something like that.
They come across and they're very intrigued. And then in the podcast, you know, and on the website, I invite you guys to come on over to the savvy scribe collective on Facebook, because that's where we're all there to everybody. They, so then I have a group called the insiders and I just opened this. It's a savvy scribe insiders.
And these are the nurses that have taken the course and graduated and you get CEUs for the course, which is even cooler because my friend was able to do that. Yeah. And, So you get CEUS for the course, and then once you graduate, you get your first writing assignment from me. So you could pitch me some ideas.
And then I have you work with one of my clients and I'll tell you how that came about. and then you, you actually start to make your money back from the course fairly quickly. So it's like a win win for you to just watch your business. You get a byline, meaning like that. You wrote the article for the website.
So you start a little portfolio and you get on your way, which is. Like I say, you get your money back almost immediately.
Naseema McElroy: [00:23:50] Wow. Wow. So how did that come about?
Janine Kelbach: [00:23:52] Okay. So when COVID-19 hit, I had a ton of clients and I loved my writing and I was doing lots of different work for lots of different, websites and COVID-19 hit and my kids came home and they said, Mom, you're the teacher now.
And I said, no, I want so by oldest, he's very self motivated and a great learner, great student. My youngest has ADHD anxiety and a little bit of learning disabilities. So he needs me there. He's in second grade now, but at the time he was in first grade and he needed me there all the time. So I, you know, I have.
It wasn't really a meltdown, but it was kind of about down to my husband. I was like, I can't do this. I don't know what to do. I can't run a business. I can't be a nurse. They gave me a mom like horrible mother, which I think we all did. And so then I'm like, I'm drinking too much. I'm drinking too much wine.
I think I'm in Oklahoma
at that time. I was like, I think it's just too much anyway. So needless to say, I was like, okay, How about I do this, I'm going to reach out a couple of my writer, friends and just offer them these jobs that I've been working on because I can't finish these and I'm not gonna do that to my clients. Well, that was easy.
And all my friends were like, yeah, we'll take your work. Yeah. We want your work. Okay. And then I'm like talking to a couple of my other friends and I reached out to them and I was like, Hey, you guys do some subcontracting, right? For your freelance businesses. Like, Oh yeah. I go, I think I want to, with some nurse writers, because people want to become writers and I just launched this course and keeping a lot of graduates and they just need writing jobs and I think I can help them.
And they're like, we'll try it, do this, do that. So I got the legalities kind of figured out and now I'm able. And I've gotten a lot more clients since then to offer nurses jobs when they finished the course. I was able to get them. There are jobs from my clients. And now I just have them pitch me ideas every month and they have like consistent work, which is so cool. So, and I take a little cut, obviously to get the clients, project, manage everything and kind of go through it all. So now it's like really paying off because I'm now getting.
Bigger clients and more profitable clients so that my nurses are getting more money for their work as well.
Naseema McElroy: [00:26:11] And you just created a whole nother business?
Janine Kelbach: [00:26:14] No, there's a sector. Right? I feel like I tell clients, I said, it's kind of like a small agency is what I run a small agency of nurses. So yeah. I mean, it's so cool.
Like , what you could do with your own business and, you know, what's cool about my business is tomorrow. I can just be like, you know, I don't want to do that anymore. And do it whenever I want, I don't have to worry about giving a resignation to the boss or just kind of pivot if I want it to. So it's, it's definitely rewarding.
Naseema McElroy: [00:26:42] I really love, I love, love, love how you were able to just like. Evolve, just this little thing you started at your grandma's bedside, just because you like right. Your papers, like, wow. I mean, and that just speaks to the sky is the limit. There are infinite ways to make money and there are infinite ways to use your skills outside of the bedside.
And I think nurses get so. Tunnel vision. Sometimes we don't see that because it's easy to just go, go, go put your head down, work those extra shifts, come in and not have any time for anything else. And then get burned out. Instead of like, knowing that you can use your skills in an array of multiple things like across the board and all these different areas.
I mean, who knew, like I would never have thought about writing unless I got into this, you know, now I'm in this entrepreneurial world. And so I know all of this stuff, but just as a bedside nurse, I would have never thought about this, but that is the power of your network.
Janine Kelbach: [00:27:42] I say to my friends and family, my friends or family have no idea. They're like, so you like, write. And like give money. Yeah.
Nurses at work. So like, how do you do that? Well, you write and you submit it and they pay you money. You mean you don't have to like kill yourself at the bedside? No, but I, when I go to work now I really enjoy it. I really enjoy it. Yes.
Naseema McElroy: [00:28:14] That's the thing. That's the beautiful thing is that. We as nurses like 99% of the nurses that I know, like really, really love our job, the issue is that we get burnt out. We get discouraged, we get caught up in, the politics of work, you know how that is. And so working because. Less book filling for us. But if we are more intentional about what we did as a whole, with our lives, our jobs as nurses become so much easier and so much more rewarding.
And that's like the same thing that I tell people when they hear it, their finances together, because you're not hustling shifts like shift a shift just to make it like now you can just like breathe and you're going to work because you actually enjoy it. Not because you have to be there. And that little perspective changes so much. And so, yeah, I think that is great. I think that, like, this program is amazing. I mean, I've never, never heard of a coaching program that not only teaches you how to write, but then once you graduate, you automatically get a byline. So you get your, your name out there and then you're like pitching them for jobs.
And I'm just like, Oh my God. So,
Janine Kelbach: [00:29:28] and you've learned the whole process along the way. It's, there's no secrets. And I only feel like that's a, you know, I'm helping. In my writing in the nurses and people, but my whole, why, you know, you always got to have some sort of why you have a, why behind your podcast. My why is to help other nurses escape that bedside burnout like it is real and it hurts.
And it doesn't mean you're a bad nurse because you want to do something a little bit different and it unleashes. My creativity, which you don't get in a nursing job, you don't get to go outside those tasks and critical thinking you. So, it's also a creative outlet too. Yeah. Yes,
Naseema McElroy: [00:30:07] yes. I love it. So you guys, if you're out there and you're, you know, you have that right.
Creative bug that you haven't been able to harvest and tap into because your head is down, right? Focus on taking care of those patients are just showing up for work or whatever the reason is. And you know, that you can use extra income Janine's course is highly, highly recommended. So again, let people know where they can get in contact with you and how they can enter into your course.
More importantly.
Janine Kelbach: [00:30:39] Sure. Well, first I wanted to share one more little win that since March, I told you since COVID right, I have added 30 clients, 45 nurse writers. I have paid out. $21,413 as of September 1st, two nurses. So like, this is so cool.
Naseema McElroy: [00:31:02] Oh my God. That's since COVID and so I just love it. I just love it because honestly I have had more people tell me, tell me about their successes since COVID then failures.
And I just want you guys to just hear that because. When you watch the news, you look outside, you know, everybody's wearing a mask, it's easy to beat down and like, dang COVID and, you know, be upset. But a lot of people have been able to actually prosper and thrive during these times. And so it's all about the company that you keep.
If you're surrounded by people who are looking for the positive and the light and the good that they can do, chances are. You'll do the same. And so, yeah, I think that that's amazing.
Janine Kelbach: [00:31:48] And then the touch on like our, the work politics stuff. I will tell you since I've gone PRN even part time, and I was happy at work all the time.
All man, those people that are just negative at work all the time. They are like super negative because you're happy and you want to be there. Like they don't even know what to do with you. So that's the other thing is you surround yourself with those people. You'll become those people. And it's a reality.
So you can find me again, the savvyscribepodcast.com. And like I said, just explore the website, see if you like it. And then there's a courses button for the course, but come over to the collective, see the podcast, read the blog, just check it out.
Naseema McElroy: [00:32:28] I love it. I love it. And of course, listen to the podcasts . And I will include that in the show notes. So you guys scroll down wherever you're listening to this click on those show notes and that link for Janine's pre-vis will be there. And then one little funny story we were talking offline is that, you know, I just got a new puppy and he's a little Yorkie poo, and he has like.
Cute little poops. And then I saw that she had two great Danes and I was like, Oh my God, how the heck do you clean up their poop?
Janine Kelbach: [00:33:03] If you take anything away from this podcast episode. So I told her, I said they will take away this. Okay. So we went through two extra large pooper scoopers when we first got the first Great Dane they just kept breaking because there was so much poop. So the is gross. Well, first I said, I've never cleaned the dog poop.
I can deal with human stuff. I'm a nurse that doesn't bother me, but two on a gag. And I hate it. Well, that quickly ended because I can't stand like dog poop in my yard. So, now we do you do the double glove technique. And to like plastic bags from the store.
Naseema McElroy: [00:33:41] Ah,
Janine Kelbach: [00:33:44] and you just pick it up, you throw in headphones.
So you throw in headphones, throw on your favorite podcast episode of whatever, and you just start picking it up.
That is awesome. That's it? You gotta do the double glove. So double gloves,
Naseema McElroy: [00:33:59] double gloves. Yes. Oh my God.
Janine Kelbach: [00:34:03] You can't think about it. You just got to go and you don't go on what days and you can't go when it's July. You got to wait till dark early morning.
Naseema McElroy: [00:34:16] If you guys don't take anything away from this podcast, you know how to now clean up Great Dane poop, Oh my God, Janine, you are, you are amazing all the way around and you.
It's spectacular, but yes, I love it. What you're doing, you are a true inspiration. You have like blown my mind on how successful you have been and successes that you brought your students. I strongly encourage people if you're looking for a side hustle and think you have a little bit of a creativity in you, check it out, but check out the podcast.
If you liked Janine's style. Check out the group. Don't think that you have to jump into something just because you hear it in the podcast. When you hear other people making money, really see if it fits for you. But again, thank you so much, Janine for joining me. You are the best
Janine Kelbach: [00:35:06] you got it. Thank you for having me.
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