This Nurse Walked Away From A 6 Figure Salary, Chief Nursing Officer Job Because God Told Her To - Ep. 89
Angie Tonini-Rogers has been a nurse leader for over 15 years, & recently took a huge FAITH step, walking away from her Chief Nursing Officer position to start her own business, without the blueprint being revealed. She's wife of 24 years and BoyMom of 3. She is the host of the inspiring and slightly provoking podcast, Wholly Made Life™, for Success-driven women who deserve it all, in all areas of their lives, not just the professional.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Naseema McElroy: [00:00:00] All right, Nurses on Fire. I am thrilled to have Angie Tonini-Rogers join us and, Angie is from the Holy Made Life. Hey Angie!
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:00:11] Hey guys. So good to be here. Thank you so much.
Naseema McElroy: [00:00:15] You have an incredible story to share an incredible journey, but overall I'm just really inspired by your path and what you're doing right now. So let's start by going back and talking about your nursing journey.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:00:32] Okay. Yeah, so, well backward, it feels like a really long time ago, but when I started college, I started pre-med and when I got up in there, I was like too much science, too much chemistry. This is not for me. So I ended up in psychology and I specialized in a lot of child and developmental psych.
So when I graduated, I got into a residential program with adolescent girls and I loved it. And so I did pretty much everything I could do there. And then I decided to go back after I got my bachelor's in psychology. I worked at Mary hers for several years and I decided to go back and get my nursing degree.
So I did an accelerated year long program, and that was. Lord have mercy. I got through it, but that was some hard times. So once I graduated, I went into neonatal intensive care nursing and I loved it. And probably because I had so much experience with mental health and behavioral health and all those socioeconomics stuff that comes with all those risk factors that gets you into the NICU a lot of the time. So I loved working with the mamas and the families, and then also taking care of those tiny little babies. And I would be the one that they would always give the hard mamas to quote unquote, you know so.
I didn't eat NICU for a while. And then I got into, I did some peds and some home health related to the NICU babies once they came home. And then I ended back up in residential, where I worked as a nurse manager, running their clinic and running all of their residential nursing, teaching staff, teaching, med administration, all of those things.
And then I ended up getting my master's degree and I had a practicum at an inpatient psych hospital in the largest children's hospital in our city. And after the practicum, they offered me a manager position of forensics adolescent. So really. Severely impacted. Behaviourally very aggressive, very serious self harmers.
And I ended up there and from there I got back into residential. I did some quality, risk and safety, and then I ended up at my most recent position as the chief nursing officer at and inpatient 140 bed inpatient psych facility with some outpatient mixed. So that's been kind of my. I guess short and long journey, but it's been a wild ride for sure.
Naseema McElroy: [00:02:51] Wow. That is a lot. And I, and I always crack up because like, I can't tell you how many guests I've had on the podcast. And it's like, yeah, we started off pre-med and then looked at those classes and was like, no, thank you. And that was me too. I was like, yeah, I don't. Like, this is going to be for me. So I love that.
But really like your journey. I tuned in an accelerated nursing program. So yeah, I remember that year. Oh yeah. That year of no life. That was my whole life. Yeah, that was challenging, but Oh my God, you have been through so many different. Like career path within nursing with just so much experience to get you into ultimately this chief nursing officer role.
And I mean, I could feel the passion in your voice when you talk about NICU, not so much when you talk about.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:03:48] That was my favorite bedside nursing, for sure. I mean, I loved the adolescence. I'm really good at that. I'm really good at dealing with behavior. It just is something that I don't know why he blessed me with it, but he did, but th that's why I love the NICU, I think just because I could get, get both, I could, I could deal with the little babies and then also the, all the other stuff that comes with it that I don't mind to deal with.
Naseema McElroy: [00:04:11] And you are definitely blessed with them because that is definitely challenging. And I know that's what a lot of people shy away from. It's like, they love the babies, but they don't want to have to deal with the parents and the family and the socioeconomic things that come along with it. Yeah, it can be a lot, but you are truly blessed to be in that role because it is challenging, but You've worked your way, all the way up to the C-suite. You got into a CNO position and then what?
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:04:40] This is something I've worked for my entire life. You know, my whole idea, my idea, and I'll focus on my idea was to really just kind of climb that ladder. Now. I love leadership. I love behavior. As I say, I said, I said, and I love working with leaders, other leaders.
So I love leadership and I love developing people and helping people grow. That's one of my things, I just, I love that so much culture. I love it. So that's kind of what drew me to leadership. I wanted to help those working with others. So I've worked for this for a long time. I've got a lot and I, you know, you specialize in some of this.
I've got a lot of that. The student loan debt. That'll tell you that story. I'm actually finishing up my doctorate of nursing right now. I've only got my project left. I'm completely done with all the classes, but thanks to COVID. I still have my project under my belt that I'm trying I'm working on, but.
You know, my idea was to kind of just climb that and just lead in different areas and I've done that. And I was eventually on the track to go to as chief operations officer and then , into a chief executive position in one of these hospitals. And I just kinda got slammed with some directions from, from God, you know, it's a spiritual thing for me, but I just felt like I was being called out of that.
And for quite a long time, I. Fought against that. I was feeling really restless and I just wasn't really sure why, and I didn't really feel settled with that decision to go into that CEO program. And I wasn't sure why, because I was like, this is what I've worked for for so long. And I've got all the student loan debt to prove it, you know?
And so. It was just way outside of me. And ultimately what happened was I ended up resigning my chief nursing officer position back in November. And some things happened around that, that confirmed that that was the right timing, a lot of things with family and my need to refocus on balancing my life and getting back to what my first.
Responsibility is, and that is my always God first, but my husband, my marriage and my kids, and then everything else after that. So there was just a lot that was going on a lot of confirmation, but yeah, I ended up walking away from my six figure salary position that I've worked for since I was teenager. I mean so it's, it's been a wild ride. It's been a journey for sure.
Naseema McElroy: [00:07:13] That has to be something super challenging to navigate. And I, and I like when you were saying like, you were fighting against it, like, I know that feeling, I know that unsettling feeling like, but this is my path. This is what I'm supposed to do.
Like, I don't know anything else. Like, this is kind of my, this is my comfort. But now you're telling me I have to do something else. And like that the fear associated with the unknown, like. I can, like when you're talking about it is totally like tangible. I can really feel it. And wow. You are very brave to walk away from that.
So like now coming through the other side and kind of seeing that you made the right choice, what does it look like now for you? Like what are you doing now?
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:07:55] Well it's, it's been interesting. I'm still piecing things together. I'm still, I call it in the building and journey phase. So I started a podcast and I'm working on that.
I have started some intentional life coaching, balanced boundaries and accountability strategy for women. To help people kind of find that balance in their lives, because I really believe that that women deserve to live their whole life fully. And not just some people, including myself, you can get into where you feel really comfortable and competent and confident in one area.
For me, that was my professional career. But other areas start to fall my personal, my physical, my, you know, my marriage, my kids, all of those things. And I, so I think it's important to. Really be able to balance all of those things so that you can live your whole life, because you're not meant to just live one piece of your pie.
It, you know, really well, what other pieces kind of fall to the wayside? So that's what I, I'm walking in and I'm looking into some real estate investing now. So that's one of those big faith things for me. I am super type A I'm super, like I got to know what's coming next.
I got to know plan a all the way to Z and have a backup plan to the Z. Okay. That's completely me. And so God said, Nope, you're going to step out. You're going to give me all of your financial as kind of a sacrificial offering. And you're going to give me all the control. So you're going to take this step without knowing what's happening next. And I'm going to reveal to you what you need to know for right now. So each of these little things, this, the podcast and the coaching, and I'm working on a course and that's, you know, Coming together and the real estate investing all these pieces that he's just revealing. Okay. Go through this door now.
And it's just, it's been a humbling experience for me to not hold that. Burden on my shoulders. I've always felt like I needed to carry that burden and it's not mine to carry. So I am every day it's sometimes every minute giving it back and saying, okay, I give it back. And it's your burden to carry not mine. And I'll just take the steps. So one step at a time, hun, it's just.
Naseema McElroy: [00:10:13] Wow. I mean, I hear it. I hear it, but I'm just like, okay, so that's a lot to just go through and experience on your own, but you are a wife and a mom to three boys. Like how has this impacted your family?
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:10:31] Well, there was a lot of prayer prior and a lot of discussion with my husband and because I am so type A, we.
We've been together almost 20, 24 years, almost 24 years. And it's just, we couldn't be in my husband and I couldn't be any more opposite. And it's been, you know, this up and down. It's been, that's work too. That's a work in progress, just like everything else. But. So typically, I guess I say that because I am so type A and he trusts when I say, you know, I really feel like this is what I'm being called to, and this is why, and here's what we, you know, we looked at financials and you have got about three to four months where we can make this happen and I can just.
Step in faith. And so lots of conversation that, you know, my kids, my middle one specifically actually was like, mom, are you like, are you going to go get a job again? Cause he's so tired of me being on his back for the homeschooling. Oh my goodness. They got so used to doing on their own, especially when COVID, I mean, I didn't see him for, you know, I was working a hundred hours a week.
I didn't see him for months. And so it was just, you know, they're supportive. They understand and it's, but there's questions that come up, you know, it's, it's, it's one of those things though. We get these reminders, you know, we had, you know, just an example, we had plumbing go out the other day or right, right after Christmas and.
We had an estimate and I was like, well God, you're gonna have to bring it to me because I don't know where that's coming from. And we got an estimate. It was way high. Then we had a friend contact us. And so we asked him to come look and his price was exactly what we had gotten in Christmas gift money.
Exactly. Minus $5 and 48 cents , to fix that. So it was just one of those things. It's like, take the step. And I will provide for you. So it's those things in my being intentional to point those things out and say, okay, he's providing, he's giving us exactly what we need as. I'm obedient.
And I take these steps doesn't mean it's not hard and scary. And you know, sometimes you just got to do stuff afraid and do it with trust and faith. So,
Naseema McElroy: [00:12:45] I mean, I'm just getting chills because it just seems like everything is just falling into place beautifully. And like you said, this just happened in November. mind you is March and like you stepped out on faith and given up this prestigious position, nurses are like, what is, she was a CNO and she walks away from that. I can just imagine the community out there, feeling like, Oh my God, how is that even possible? But it seems like everything is falling into place.
And I think that's what you get when you listen and you trust and the surrender is there. Like I hear it all and I think it's incredible. And. Not a lot of people would be able to do that. So I really commend you.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:13:30] Yeah. Girl, people were like, well, people that know me, they were like, well, what you're doing, but other people were like, you're crazy.
I would never do that. Are you nuts? And I'm like, yeah, it does feel nuts. But that also one of those other things too, is that this is 11 years in the making. This is me. Seeking and trying to be intentional and trying to hear from him and that skill being developed because that's not an easy thing either.
So this is a practice thing, and this was kind of, he, he wouldn't have asked me to do this 11 years ago because I wouldn't have had that maturity or experience with him, a background with him, a history with him to know that I could do that. I always preface this with saying, I'm not, don't hear this and think that you need to run out and quit your job.
If you know, that's not what this is about, because I might go back into another position. This, this is a season he's calling me to do certain things right now. And you know, when I walked away, I don't know that it's forever, but if it is, and that's what he calls it to be. I trust him. So because I, it wasn't because I didn't like it.
I loved it even through COVID even through the a hundred hour weeks for months on end, even without an infection control nurse for you know, she walked out on April 1st. And so I had to take on that role, you know, but even through all of that, I still loved what I did and it wasn't anything except for, I knew 120% that this is what. I needed to do so,
Naseema McElroy: [00:15:07] but what I'm hearing is through this process, like through you set these 11 years in the making, I feel like you had to do a lot of internal work, a lot of building yourself up a lot of building trust and belief in yourself. And so these are some things that I feel like now, It's like your turn to help others.
So can you explain to me like what you do in your coaching business and with the Holy Life podcast? Like what your mission is?
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:15:40] Sure. So yeah, I do want to help women just regain that balance, reclaim their whole life, like I said, and. I'm pretty passionate about that. And if you listen to any of the episodes, I have a few that are called the accountability series and I'm not.
I wasn't an easy leader and I wasn't, you know, I'm not an easy coach because I love you enough to give you the feedback that I think is important for you to grow. And I don't, I believe that if we stop growing, we die. I think Tony Robbins actually said that, but I have been on this journey to improve myself since I was a teen.
I can't remember. My age before I started reading books and learning about what I could do differently to change my circumstance or thrive in my circumstance. This is a lifelong thing for me. So that's how I lead. I challenge people. I hold people accountable, but not before I challenged myself and hold myself accountable.
So it's about accountability and taking responsibility. You know, whether you're talking about as a parent, as you know, as a wife, As a leader, as a nurse at the bedside, it's always about number one, what you can do differently to get a different outcome, because it's an illusion to think that you can control anybody else.
It's just. It's not real, it's a lie. So the more you focus on doing what you can do differently to get better outcomes and grow yourself, everyone around you is impacted. And it just happens organically. So it's super important to start with yourself. And so that's what I do. I focus on. Okay.
Where are the areas you need to look at? And then what are some small things that you can do in each of those areas that are manageable? So action steps that are manageable because when you think about all my Lord, my, my life's a mess. You know, that's too big. You, you don't know where to start. You can't you got to start somewhere.
So, you know, kind of like I was reading your book the other day, which is very good by the way. And you've got the nine steps, right? And so you break it down . And you make it small enough to where you can take a chunk of that and focus on that. So you've got to have some intentional focus and then you've got to be accountable to those things.
So that's kind of what we do. Help break it down into small pieces, bring up some action steps, and then hold them accountable to that. And you can't skip on what you need to focus on to grow you first. You know, a lot of women want to say, well, he's not doing it. He's not an, I do well, guess what? You can't control that anyway.
So if you're in the marriage or in that relationship with your friend, or you are in that position, at work, then you are choosing to be there and you're choosing to stay there. So then you've got to focus on what you can make an impact on and that's you.
Naseema McElroy: [00:18:56] Right, right. Self-responsibility is something, I don't know why as a society, as a people, like we always look to external things. If we really just hone in on what we were accountable for intake. Full responsibility for our lives. We have full control over how everything else plays around us. Like we don't have to wait for somebody else to change. We just have to take responsibility and know that everything that happens in your life you're responsible for.
But she said something to me that I always crack up about. And that's like, Balance, like what does balance really look like? Because I mean, like, corporate nurse, a mom, a wife, what is that? What does balance really look like for you?
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:19:48] Right. Well, I think balance is number one, understand. Standing what you want and what that looks like. Because sometimes people are like, well, I'm not a good parent, or I'm not being a good mom. Well, what is that? What does that even look like? So you have to define it because then you're just thinking, and you're beating yourself up for not being or doing enough, not being enough, not doing enough, not meeting the goals, but you don't even know what it is.
Well, what would make you a good mom then? What would make you a good parent then? What does that look like? What does that feel like? And so first, just defining that. And so once you define it, then you make intentional choices about each of those and, and give or take in those areas. So if you think about a circle or a pie, the whole thing is not going to be even all the time, but it's about being intentional about what.
Are each of those areas defined as, and what intentional choices are you making to ebb and flow that where you feel comfortable and then also identifying when you start to feel uncomfortable in a certain area, if you feel completely. You know, indebted in your financial area. Well then what specifically is your goal and what specifically can you do today?
What's one thing you do today that makes you feel better about that area of your life. So it's about understanding what balance is for you. Because it, you know, it's going to be different and different seasons are going to call for different balance in different areas. So if you're starting up a new career, or if you are a CNO, there are going to be some places where you give and take for, for that professional piece of your pie versus your relationships.
Maybe you, you know, maybe you don't get to go out with your girlfriends as much as you would. And you're okay with giving on that a little bit. So it just it's understanding what it is and then making those intentional choices so that you are feeling comfortable with each of those areas.
Naseema McElroy: [00:21:51] So for the people that you typically coach, where are they at usually in light life stages, like when they come to you for help?
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:22:00] Sometimes they don't even realize what it is they need help with. They don't know why they're in an unrest. They're just feeling overwhelmed, overworked and burnout, and they don't know why. And so we dive into those questions about, okay.
So what does it feel like? Not to be overwhelmed, have you ever not felt overwhelmed or overstressed or, or burnt out? And what did that look like? What was going on in your life? So again, working on that identification first and understanding what they need to feel more balanced and then creating those boundaries around those areas.
Cause that's another big one. You've got to be able most of the time when we're feeling overworked, overwhelmed, burnt out, we're not creating good boundaries in those areas. And so other areas or that area starts to suffer. So it's, it's a lot of times that. They don't know, they just know that they don't feel good they don't feel right. And we do the work to identify what, what it is that would make them feel better.
Naseema McElroy: [00:23:03] Wow. I love that. I love that. Awesome. Now that you work with people who are struggling with perfectionism.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:23:09] Yes ma'am I'm a recovering perfectionist. I say it all the time.
Naseema McElroy: [00:23:16] There's a quote and I always mess up quotes. It's like perfectionism, is it an excuse for procrastination or something like that.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:23:29] It's all woven together. Perfectionism, procrastination, people-pleasing all of that is kind of woven together.
Naseema McElroy: [00:23:36] Yeah. And I'm assuming, but I'm pretty sure I'm right in this assumption that a lot of times people come to you and they'll tell you all the things that they don't want in their lives, but they truly don't know what the things they want are. How do you work with them to discover that.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:23:56] We pick what's most important. I have a short assessment just because, like you said, people don't even know where to start. So it's a, it's like a five question. And it's literally a question about physical, a question about spiritual, a question about your relationships.
And it just gets people thinking about. Okay. What is it that I'm unhappy about? So what I try to do is look at their assessment and then we can go into a deeper, and I'm sure you've heard of people who heard about the life wheel assessment, your different assessments, that you can just assess all the different areas of your life, but we focus on what's most important to them.
We focus on if they're feeling really poorly in their marriage, then we all focus on identifying that and maybe that's all they can do. It sometimes depends on. How much movement they need, how far they want to go, what their goal is, then backing out of that. So you've got the goal way over here and it might be huge, but backing into, okay, what is a step that you can do today for that?
So we just. It's really individualized because it depends on what she needs and where she is. And what's important to her and that, you know, that number one, two or three things that would make her feel like she's making progress. Cause that's what you gotta do. You gotta know that you're making progress and you got to get out of this space where you just feel so overwhelmed and burnt out that you're just it's everything to get up in the morning out of that bed.
So I start a lot of. I always work with people about state, but you know, before they get up out of the bed, it's, it's, it's a morning routine that you get involved in. You know, I it's a very, it could be a very simple where you just. First of all, start off with some thank yous. Thank you for this, this and this.
And then it gets your mind in a place. So it's a lot of mindset work too with it. It's indirectly, but that's what it is. It's a lot of mindset work and then calling out some things that are truths about who you are. In that area. If it's about being a wife, then you call out those things that you want to be as a wife, whether you feel like you're there or not. So it's just simple little things like that that we can put together in an action plan. And and I'm there to help continue that again, accountability. Cause sometimes it, at least for me, it's always very helpful for me to have an accountability partner or be part of a mastermind of women that will, you know, if I've gotten an assignment and I know by Tuesday I meet with them again on zoom that I'll get that thing done because there's an accountability.
And because I want, you know, I do have that little piece of, I want. People to be proud of me. I want people, I want to please people that's still that doesn't go away when you're recovering perfectionist, that stuff doesn't go away. So you use it then for your benefit at that point. So, you know, we, we try to use some of that also, when we're talking about accountability,
Naseema McElroy: [00:26:53] And then along the same lines, like I know that I mean, you talked about like relationship stuff, but as working moms, like the mom guilt is real. I was once told by my father, actually that I was having other people raise my kids while I worked. And that feeling, like. That was very hurtful. But I'm trying to show my kids a better life at the same time, but I mean, like, how do you work with moms that are struggling with that, like loving their career, really wanting to be in their careers, but also wanting to be like really good moms?
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:27:31] Right i, yeah, 100%. And I think that's also why you brought up such a good point about. Defining what the world says it should look like versus what it looks like for you. So something, even as small as if you have two kids, can you give 15 minutes a day to each of those kids individually? Can you let them, what do you want to do for them?
Can you get 10 minutes? And then, you know, you've got 10 good minutes with that child doing what that child wants to do within reason. And. That's an opportunity for you to spend that time with that kid who says that that's not okay. We have to define what motherhood looks like and this whole culture of, you know, my mother has a mess and you know, all of that, who said that, who told you that?
Because we each have our own systems and our own lives and our own things that we want. I mean, who as a mother doesn't want their child to be a good you know, reputable member of a society that's giving, giving back to people and impacting the world. Absolutely. But I think the other thing is that we don't always take time to give ourselves credit for what we are doing.
Naseema McElroy: [00:28:45] And we do so much.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:28:47] So that's another thing that I try to do as a coach is point out, well, wait a minute, you know, your child is this, this and this. You just said, told me this story about this. Where do you think he or she got that from? You taught him that you taught her that, you know, I had this huge revelation when I took my 18 year old off to Arizona, which is 26 hours away.
That was, Ooh, Lord have mercy. One of the hardest things I've ever had to do for both of us, I think, but. You know, there's things that he's doing and choices he's making. And some of it too is a faith thing where you just got to put the faith that you've done, what you can now I've worked all of his life.
And my career has always been sometimes number one, above my marriage and above my kids sometimes. Not because that was intentional, but because I didn't have the skill sets, I needed to keep an imbalanced. So there's a lot of things I missed. There's a lot of things I messed up on, but it doesn't mean there's not grace for that.
So, you know, there's a lot of grace and mercy for that. And if you think about our own childhoods, like, I feel like I turned out. Okay. And there's a lot of things I can think about, you know, in my childhood that maybe didn't go as well as it should have. So there's a lot of grace for that. And I think that we each deserve to give ourselves that grace when we need to.
Naseema McElroy: [00:30:06] We do definitely need to give ourselves some grace. And I think, I think especially like women who are really ambitious and are type A are a struggling perfectionist, like. We don't give ourselves the credit. We don't stop to actually look at our accomplishments and we're always on Gomo.
Yeah, it's only so long. You can go before you crash. I'm a labor and delivery nurse. So I'm like thinking about like those babies, heart rates when they're tachycardic and they're going, going, going, going, going, you know, it's only a matter of time where that baby is going to Crump.
And we only have a short window to help that baby. And that's how I feel like we're always going until we Crump. And like I just hope that people don't get to that point, but it's inevitable. If you don't pour back into yourself, if you don't step, like, just take a step back and acknowledge where you are and where you come and the things that you've done, like slow down.
It's okay to slow down. And I, and I have to tell myself this every day, because my mind is racing. Like you have to get this done. These are things that need to get done. Stop. It's okay. It's okay. So what messages do you have out there for women who really, really want to walk out on faith, but they're scared to lose all the things that they've worked for.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:31:36] I think that. For me, I have to align it with truth and not with fear or what the world says. It doesn't mean that you're not going to do things scared, but it means that you are going to do things scared. You know, you have to make those choices to do things scared. you can be paralyzed and not move at all, but.
That maybe you stay in the same place. It doesn't make it worse. It doesn't make it better, but it doesn't light you up and you just stay there or you can choose to just continue to do the walkthrough of your life every single day and build up these resentments and these angers and these feelings, these guilt, the shame, the, whatever, those feelings come out of that from not doing what you know you could be doing, you can live in that regret and that doesn't serve you. And it's not what you're meant for. It's not what your purpose for. You are purposed to walk out those actions and those daily things that you're being called to do, because someone is on the other side waiting on you to do it. And they need you to do it with a happy, joyful heart, not a resentful, guilty, shameful, regretful heart, you know?
And so I just think sometimes you just have to take those steps in faith and trust and you have to align what it is you're wanting to do with truth. And the truth is that you are equipped to do whatever you're dreaming about whatever your desires are. Whatever has come to your mind. If it's aligned with the truth, then you're equipped. You've got what you need. It's just that you may not have identified that yet, but there are no dreams and desires that are put into your heart that you're not equipped to walk out.
So it doesn't mean you won't be scared, but you still got to do the walk. You still got to, take the step. I can't get out of bed in the morning just by laying there. I've got to actually move. I've got to get my feet and put them on the floor and take a step. Or else it doesn't happen. And the other thing is break it down to where it's one step at a time.
One step, you can do anything. One step at a time. You can do anything for a time limit. So you talk about giving yourself permission to stop and breathe and think it's okay to take that second. That two seconds, that five minutes. It's okay to do that. And sometimes that puts it back into perspective of what the next thing is going to be.
But if you think about it just as one day at a time, one step at a time that's small enough to where any of us can do that.
Naseema McElroy: [00:34:22] I know there's so many people out there that needed to hear this, even if they didn't know they needed it. I know I definitely need it this, so I am super appreciative of what you're doing, because like, I, I know you're walking in your purpose.
Like it's in everything around you, it's in your energy. And I'm so glad you took that leap of faith. And can you let people out there know how they can listen to the Wholly Made podcast or get in contact with you as far as your coaching services?
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:34:54] Yes. So the podcast is anywhere you can find podcasts. It's called Wholly Made Life. And it's W H O L L Y made life. And so you can find that anywhere. And then you can also find me by my name, Angie, to Minnie Rogers on Instagram or Facebook. And you can email me there too at Angie, Tony Rogers. At Gmail,
Naseema McElroy: [00:35:17] Nice well Angie, this has been an amazing conversation.
I'm glad you, you walked out and stepped out on faith and listened to God and what your God was leading you, because I can see the impact that you have over so many people's lives. And when you impact women, you impact communities. And so it's not just about the women that you work with. Like it's about everyone that.
Surrounds them. So I'm super appreciative of everything that you are doing. I'm super honored to be able to have met you and to connect with you. And this has just been amazing. And like I said, I know a lot of people can benefit from this, even if they didn't know they needed this. So thank you.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:36:02] Yeah, I thank you, I thank I'm honored the honor is all mine.
I thank you. And like you said, that the impact that you're making in the world around you, it is so much bigger than us. And I appreciate your yes. As well, because you know, sometimes our yes. Is what impacts things that we had no idea what was going to happen. So I am appreciative of your yes. So thank you.
Naseema McElroy: [00:36:26] Thank you so much. Yeah, girl, if you would've told me that this is where I would have been. I'm like, what? Like seriously, like I'm a nurse. I just want to do nursing, but you know, I knew that there was a need out there. So I couldn't say now. Yeah, but thank you again so much for coming on the podcast and you guys make sure you're listening to Holy may life podcast, and reach out to Angie for her coaching services.
Angie Tonini-Rogers: [00:36:57] Thank you so much.
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